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deepwaters Senior Member

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Sun Jun 20th, 2010 06:26 am |
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| Suzy Q, I'm so sorry to hear the bakery closed,,,sure wish they had given notice so you could have stocked up on bread until you found another supplier. My heart breaks for you because you have such severe allergies,,,hope the allergy shots work this time!! How can the FDA label implants SAFE???? Dee
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Posted: Sun Jun 20th, 2010 07:04 am |
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Dear Debbie,
I only now found this thread with your article in Mindfood. What a wonderfully written experience! You are a beautiful lady inside and out and so very brave! I am very happy to hear you are feeling better, and hope that eventually every last bit of your symptoms from the implants will disappear.
-Ida
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Sun Jun 20th, 2010 09:23 am |
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Hi Ida
I remember you from when I was posting under DebbieM. Thanks for your kind words. I know we stumbled onto this site around the same time Nov last year. I'm doing well now thanks, better every day. Hope things are good with you also.
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Posted: Sun Jun 20th, 2010 02:10 pm |
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Suzy Q wrote: Beth,
I am so glad you are moving out of that place. Thank goodness for that. You will feel better after leaving there.
A good friend of mine recently had to have her house tented for termites. I am sure you are aware of how BAD pesticides are for you even if you are healthy. I am terrified to go over there because the poison residue is EVERYWHERE and that is like a toxic soup for someone like me.
I hope she understands but I think deep down inside she will think I am over reacting or being paranoid. People who are healthy JUST DON'T GET IT. Those of us who are not have to be so careful and go above and beyond with our environments.
Hopefully your next home will be safe.......
Suzy Q
Suzy,
No, you are so right, they just don't get it. Those pesticides are dangerous for anyone even your friend. I would not want to live in a home after something like that has been done. The only difference is someone like me or you would feel the effects of that almost immediately but your friend might not feel it for several years down the road. I certaintly hope that isn't the case but you just can't spray poisons and not be affected in some way.
Funny you should mention termites because before I moved in this apartment, I heard that this entire building was treated for termites. I didn't find that out until after I moved in here. I do believe I'm living in a toxic dump. I just hope that it hasn't done too much damage that I won't recover from it. I can't wait to get out of here. It won't be much longer now. It certainly will be a new beginning for me and I'm hopeful that I'll see much improvement.
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Suzy Q Senior Member


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Sun Jun 20th, 2010 04:16 pm |
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Deepwaters,
I am reading Dr Vasey's book (The silicone breast implant controversy)
This is a sample of a part of his book regarding the FDA......
The FDA is not comprised of scientists who sit in labs testing experimental drugs and medical devices. The agency does no testing of it's own; mostly it reviews existing data or creates panels of experts who examine other studies, interpret thier validity, translate the findings, and make judgements about whether a product is safe for use by the public.
In the case of Implants, the FDA relied to a great extent on test results submitted by manufacturers and was thus at the mercy of these tests' validity
Implants fall under the catagory of a MEDICAL DEVICE. In 1962 a new regulation bill passed and drugs had to be more strictly regulated by the FDA. Implants were stricken by this new law because they were now considered a medical device and did not fall under the now more strict guidelines that a drug would.
This left the FDA powerless to make judgements about the NEW silicone implants being put on the market. It was not until 1976 (14 years later) that the FDA was graned the authority to regulate medical devices. However this change in policy applied only to NEW devices.
Breast implants, which had been in use for years, in hundreds of thousands women, were GRANDFATHERED by the FDA. Their safety was assumed because they had been used on an ongoing basis without demonstration of health risk.
When the FDA did finally ask the manufacturers for safety data, they were given YEARS to submit this safety info to the FDA.
Essentially, this grandfather designtion by the FDA was a lack of disapproval for silicone implants rather than a genuine approval of safety.
This next statement in his book SHOCKED ME........
In 1982 the FDA fianllly placed implants into class 3 category, meaning that they were deemed to pose a POTENTIALLY UNREASONABLE RISK OF INJURY.
But, due to the grandfather stature, safety data wouldn't be submitted for agency review for NEARLY A DECADE........The silicone implant safety studies slipped through one hole in the regulatory net after another.....
Thats enough to turn your stomach. When the implants were put back out on the market again, I am pretty sure if they are only following these women for a few years, this will not be sufficient for their conditions to show up yet.
Some argue that women with implants are getting Lupus, MS, etc.... in the same percentages of other women in the general population. In other words, we would have gotten sick even if we never had put implants in.....
In no way do I believe this. The proof is too strong. IF a woman shows signs of RA or MS and removes the implants and recovers.....What the HELL more proof is that. And, I am sure that non-implanted women who get Lupus don't have all of the other strange ailments that implanted women get. For us, it is so much deeper than just having one thing wrong with us. We almost always have Several things or more.
That's my rant for the day.
Suzy Q
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Posted: Sun Jun 20th, 2010 09:16 pm |
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Suzy Q,
Perfectly stated. I spent over a year researching and talking to others before going through with the surgery. None of this info is out there. Well maybe it is and more easily found on page 9999 on the web search results. I only found the problem pages when I keyed in my symptoms along with implants. So in other words, when it was too late. The bad things and the real symptoms need to get out there. They need to be page one in a web search or on the risks page in our ps offices. And I never have thought for one second the FDA cares about our well being.
Sorry about your bread. I've always been a closet gluten sufferer and appreciate finding the right loaf. There aren't many. I would love to find the right recipe that includes ease and taste so I can bake my own.
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Sun Jun 20th, 2010 10:25 pm |
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Thanks Val,
I appreciated that
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Posted: Mon Jun 21st, 2010 02:13 am |
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That is right, they are only following the women for a few years if that. They also say not only with Lupus and MS but also with suicide....the woman would have committed suicide whether she had implants or not. I know for a fact that is NOT true. I have spoken to women that have not been followed at all and if they had problems, their symptoms were ignored. This is all being controlled and will continue to do so because there is so much money involved here.
Not only that but also, new medications are not tested long enough to see the full effects as well. That is why I'm very leery in taking any new med on the market because it really hasn't been tested thoroughly. Again, another fightening thing to think about and be aware of.
We have to educate ourselves and be very careful out there. Knowledge is power.
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Mon Jun 21st, 2010 02:54 am |
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Beth,
You are 100% correct about Meds being rushed to the market.
These drug companies are making billions of dollars on them.
For those who have no choice but to take the medicine, they risk being sicker from the side effects of the medicine, than what they are being treated for.
You guys have been so supportive and I really appreciate it.....
Your friend,
Suzy Q
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Posted: Mon Jun 28th, 2010 04:25 am |
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Hello SuzyQ -
I cam across your post and this site searching for the Francis Simun video you are searching for. My best friend (who ironicly is considering implants) purchased from there for her food allergy children. My little ones and I have a long list of food allergies as well - I spoke with someone from the bakery a while back - they told me it takes at least 24 hrs to make a loaf of bread - the use a "proofer". From the research I've done - I've found similar type explication in something called macrobiotic cooking. We get provocation/neutralization shots which are somewhat similar to the LDA shots you and my BF's son get.
Special Foods is similar to Simun Francis. I have figured out ways to make bread with different seeds so I have not been ordering from them. They don't have a functioning website that I know of, they will send you a catalog and information if you call. There number is 708.644.0991 The catalog states that each loaf of bread is made from one flour only, distilled water, calcium phosphate and baking soda. Flour choices are white sweet potato, malanga, cassava, arrowroot, lotus, amaranth, quinoa, milo, and buckwheat.
White sweet potato if you can find it - makes a wonderful white french fry substitute. They go so quickly here I haven't had the chance to try making bread out them. Can you have flax seed, chia seed or avocado?
I know how frustrating it is to have limited food choices and fight to keep on weight - hope you find good substitutes! Please let me know if you find that video.
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Mon Jun 28th, 2010 05:36 pm |
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Wow what a powerful article. Thanks so much for posting it. Is it ok to forward the link to others?
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Posted: Tue Jun 29th, 2010 08:27 am |
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Thanks Enjoylife. It's not a problem for me if you want to forward it on but maybe check with Beth if the link is going outside the forum to non sufferers? I'm not sure what her policy is on that. I can send you a copy privately if you want to forward it on :)), that's no problem.
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Tue Jun 29th, 2010 05:00 pm |
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Dear Enjoylife,
I just ordered my arrowroot, cassava and white swett potato bread from Special foods. I hope I can tolerate it. Thank goodness it does not have eggs, yeast, or milk. Thanks for the reminder. I found their number in my old phone book, thier area code is 703. I had dialed the 708-644-0991 and got a fast busy signal.
I wanted to share a batter for fried foods that I made up. It works with fried chicken, fried shrimp or fried anything.
I know, fried foods are not HEALTHY, buy every once in awhile I need some kind of comfort food.......
I make up a big batch and keep in the fridge.....
2 cups arrowroot flour
1 cup milo flour
1 cup quinoa flour
salt and pepper to taste.
Mix well....
I can't use milk or egg to dip my chicken in so I just use water. I batter the chicken well and pan or deep fry. It comes out crispy and delicious. My husband loves it too....
My sweet potato hashbrowns:
1 diced up sweet potato
about 1/2 onion sliced or cubed
1/2 bell pepper sliced or cubed
salt and pepper
Tony Chacheres original creole seasoning, ) I never measure, just a few good shakes..(.maybe 2 tsp..)This is pronounced Tony Sash-a-rays
1/2 cup of olive oil
The sweetness from the sweet pot. and the spices from the creole seasoning are SOOOOO good together.
Heat the olive oil in a large skillet, add the sweet pot. and all of the seasonings, cook at medium to medium high heat to brown the sweet pot.
Stir and turn often to avoid sticking and to get them cooked. Once they look cooked and browned, add the bell pepper and onion in and cook a few minutes more until the onion and pepper are softened.
Very Yummy...........
Suzy Q
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Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 02:48 am |
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Greenie wrote: Thanks Enjoylife. It's not a problem for me if you want to forward it on but maybe check with Beth if the link is going outside the forum to non sufferers? I'm not sure what her policy is on that. I can send you a copy privately if you want to forward it on :)), that's no problem.
The file is in a directory on another website I own. No one can hack this directory so it was best to put it there. It can be passed on as just the file or you can provide the full link. Either way, no problem.
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Wed Jun 30th, 2010 07:35 am |
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I'm gonna be trying the hash browns Suzy. I live on Kumera (maori word for sweet potato in NZ). These will go down nicely with some organic eggs on a Sunday morning.
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Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 03:41 pm |
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Greenie,
try it and let me know. I can ship you some Tony C, creole seasoning if you want me to. It is great on lots of stuff.
I love sweet potatos too and they dont bother me like the white potato does.
I really really really miss eating eggs. I LOVE them so much. My husband and I used to love waking up on Sunay morning and make a huge breakfast. I still get so angry when I think about all of the basic things, like eating normal, those damn implants have robed me of.
Thanks Greenie
Suzy Q
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Fri Aug 13th, 2010 06:23 am |
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Shocking!
No one knows the truth! When my friends and I heard of complications; we always believed that it was: 1 out of a million. We thought that from so many surgeries; one or two people must have a complication. Never would have imagined that so many people got affected by it. And to this extent.
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